Plain language
What pastoral marriage mentoring is — and what it is not
We want you to know exactly what you are buying before you pay for anything. Two Hearts is pastoral care for couples, led by ordained pastors Leo and Tarran Carter. It is not licensed clinical therapy, and we never pretend otherwise.
What it is
- Faith-based relationship guidance and marriage education
- Guided conversation, teaching, and practical exercises between sessions
- Pastoral care from ordained ministers with decades of experience
- Preparation for engaged couples and support for married couples
- Accountability, encouragement, and prayer when you want it
What it is not
- Licensed therapy, psychotherapy, or counseling by a licensed clinician
- Diagnosis or treatment of any mental health condition
- Medical advice, medication management, or a substitute for medical care
- A crisis, emergency, or domestic violence service
- Legal advice about separation, divorce, or custody
Common questions
Straight answers
- Is pastoral marriage mentoring the same as therapy?
- No. Pastoral mentoring is faith-based relationship guidance, teaching, and accountability offered by ordained ministers. Licensed therapy is regulated clinical care that can assess, diagnose, and treat mental health conditions. Two Hearts does none of the latter.
- Who are the mentors?
- Leo and Tarran Carter, ordained in 2005 in New York by Pastor Donnie McClurkin, with more than 30 years of combined marriage-counseling experience. Leo served as Director of Pastoral Service at St. Mary's in Syosset, New York for seven years. Both are founders of Perfecting Church International alongside Bishop-Elect Marvin Winans, and served on the New York call board.
- What happens in a session?
- A 50-minute video conversation with both partners, guided around your five-pillar scores: communication, conflict, intimacy, trust, and partnership. You leave with specific exercises for the week, not a diagnosis.
- When should we see a licensed professional instead?
- When there is abuse or danger, active addiction, untreated depression or anxiety, suicidal thoughts, or a condition needing clinical assessment or medication. We will say so plainly and encourage you toward licensed care. Individual safety comes first, always.
If you are in crisis
Two Hearts is not an emergency service. In the United States, call 911 if someone is in danger, 988 for the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, or 1-800-799-7233 for the National Domestic Violence Hotline.